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An excellent discussion is taking place on the FB group (that should be here), but it sparked a question in my mind.
As an organization, we vocally support the "choice" of parents to homeschool or to send their kids to private school (both of which conceivably also pull funds from public schools when those students use EC services or extracurriculars, etc).
We do NOT seem to support the choice of a charter school (which pull funding, but teach, theoretically, the "whole child")
We also do NOT support vouchers for low-income families to send students to private schools
The two forms of choice we support are reserved for wealthier families. The poor cannot stay at home and educate their children (and in many cases don't have the education to do it). They also can't afford private education.
So, we don't support choice for poor families?
What kind of choices do they have if their child isn't being successful in their current school?
Learning is like rowing upstream; not to advance is to drop back.
~ Chinese Proverb
However, I do not support tax dollars going anywhere but the public school system. Tax dollars have no business being sent anywhere else. It is a public fund just like any other tax.
I do not drive on all the roads in my community, but the taxes setup for the road building/repair system is spent throughout the state without my direct consent.
Teach your children however you want, but understand that tax money is a public fund and will not follow your choice.
High School Chemistry Teacher. 7th year HS teaching. Franklin Central. Indianapolis, In
Post by petraarkanian on Aug 10, 2013 17:30:42 GMT -5
I am also quite confused as to what the official BAT position is. The thread that sparked this was deleted. Never got an answer from BAT as far as what their stance is. Why not?
If the charter school takes no public funding of any kind, makes no profit, allows its board of directors to make no profit, encourages union membership for its staff, is subject to local administration and control, is subject to all the laws and rules to which all public schools in the community are subject, takes all students regardless of level of poverty or special need, and takes students from all demographics in the same proportions that the rest of the community takes, then I support the charter school. If any of these necessary components is missing, then, naturally, I do not support the charter, as it is absolutely bad for the community.
Post by ladywclass on Aug 10, 2013 21:01:37 GMT -5
I support an excellent education for ALL children, regardless of SES. Parents with money (or those willing to sacrifice) have always had a choice of schools. The current voucher systems seem to provide little additional choice to low SES students, but help subsidize the educations of those who have always had the choice - and done so at the expense of PUBLIC education dollars.
Elem spec ed, 29th year (also gen ed, g/t, college experience) Indiana & Texas
Jim, can you explain further how a charter is, de facto, a private school.
As from wikipedia:
First is that they will operate as autonomous public schools, through waivers from many of the procedural requirements of district public schools. These waivers do not mean a school is exempt from the same educational standards set by the State or district.
So if they are public schools then why is their autonomy? If autonomy is such a key to success and charter schools are "public" then why don't traditional public schools get this kind of autonomy?
Many charter schools, here in Indianapolis, do not have to follow state rules on teacher licensing. Teachers can be hired (and fired) at the will of the owners. They can be selective about the students that they accept. While there are certainly rules they have to follow, there is not any oversight to ensure fair processing of applicants. Public schools have no ability to choose students all students within the district are automatically accepted.
A good example is the charter that took over John Marshall here in Indianapolis. A school that previously had over 1000 students before the charter. Many students did not want to go to the charter so they automatically went to the nearest public school. No student that "refuses" to go to a public school will automatically attend the nearest charter.
The simple fact that there is an admissions process gives it a lot of similarity with a private school.
Finally, the fact of ownership plays into it. No one person or corporation owns a public school. It is owned by the tax payers of the community. And if these people accept their responsibilities as a part of their community then they also have direct decision making ability through elected board members & attending board meetings.
Charter schools may or may not work under such a program. Most of the local charters here are ran by companies. Some are non-profit and some are for-profit, but either way there is a company/corporation that is essentially in charge of the school. Not the tax payers of the community. Much like private schools, which are ran by an organization, whether religious or not.
High School Chemistry Teacher. 7th year HS teaching. Franklin Central. Indianapolis, In
I think the biggest problem I had with elected officials throwing around the word 'choice' is the idea that my tax money will be used to pay for education at private religious schools. This was where the 'choice' movement started. I am a firm believer in separation of church and state. When they figured out there was money to be made by their campaign contributors then we got the privately owned, for-profit charter movement. It is the perfect cycle of defunding and problem student concentration to destroy public schools. Just like they are hamstringing the US Postal Service for privatization. 'Choice' started in a bad place and then it got worse. The motivation has nothing to do with helping poor kids. The money from a voucher will NOT cover the cost of a private school education. Parents would still have to be in a situation to pay the difference and students have to be IEP, 504 and bad behavior free to get accepted to private schools.
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